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dr. pompa: hey, we’re live!warren: welcome to cellular healing tv. sorry about last week, if you were on the show.it was a replay. we don’t do that, but we had an amazing seminar with life-changingdoctors. it was a world-changing event, wasn’t it, dr. pompa and david?david: it was absolutely life changing. warren: yeah, so welcome back to cellularhealing tv, episode 15, i believe. we’re running strong with this cellular healingmessage, “heal the cell, get well. lose weight, feel great,” a message that theworld needs to hear, because life and death happens at the cell. that’s our basis ofwhat we do. in and around that, we’re teaching on topics that destroy lives, and giving youthe real solutions that can transform your

life and give people their lives back. thisweek’s topic, biotoxins. last week’s topic, lyme disease. lyme disease is a biotoxin—well,it produces a living biotoxin. that’s what makes us sick. mold also produces a biotoxin.heavily detrimental, can transform and kill lives. dr. pompa, let’s open up this topicof discussion with david today. dr. pompa: biotoxic illness is something isee all the time. as a matter of fact, i just had a patient with it early this morning.every time he leaves his house and travels, he feels a little bit better. ended up inan autoimmune disease. if you recall from our past conversations, it just takes a stressor,or stressors, most often, typically three, which i call the perfect storm, and it triggersa gene for autoimmune. sure enough, he was

diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis. of course,same protocol, plenty of steroids, eventually chemo drugs. this gentleman chose a differentroute. already, after just one intermittent fast which we started with him, and he ison day 12, he says, “doc, already my gut symptoms are better. my gerd, which is basicallyhis acid reflux, is gone.” he says, “my joint pain is literally at least 80% better.”his hands are still stiff, that’s it. that’s it. again, we’re moving him from the fastto down regulate inflammation into a detox plan. he’s getting his silver amalgam filingsout and, this is the part that i love, he’s moving out of his house. he’s taking everythingof action in removing r1, his source. we are down regulating inflammation, and this manwill get his life back. if it were only so

easy with everybody. he was willing to dowhatever it took to get his life back. he’s moving into retirement, and he realizes thegolden years weren’t so golden. he has mold in his basement. same thing, if your basementout there’s getting wet, folks, that means you have mold. if your humidity is high, ifyour humidity’s over 60 in your basement, in your house, that means you have mold. it’sfeeding the mold. you don’t even have to have a leak to have moldwarren: let’s back up on this, dr. pompa. i know you want me to speak to that, but let’sback up and tell our story of surrounding mold. dan and i were both sick. dan got sickprobably in the 2000s—no, in the late 90’s. dr. pompa: yeah, exactly. probably startedin the late 90’s for sure, and then—i

was actually, of course i had a mouthful ofamalgams. i also was living in an old, moldy homeâ with a wet basement. two stressors,and my third stressor was i was training on my bike at the time. i was putting a lot ofmiles in, which is physical stress. those three stressors came together, and my bottomfell out. warren: it wasn’t until later—i came inon the backside of that, and some of the knowledge dr. pompa had. he knew about mold illness.we weren’t treating it, i would say, or helping people with it as much, when we firststarted our clinic in 2005. then, i was living in my parent’s basement. we knew about it.we knew that it was a major concern. i moved from a moldy house into my parent’s moldybasement, bottom of a hill. if you’re at

a bottom of a hill, let me just teach youthis real quick. dr. pompa: it’s worth teaching, becausewhen you build a home or you look at a home, what warren’s going to show you, is positivewater pressure. you can’t stop water from penetrating in a situation like this, andit’s very, very difficult. the water eventually comes in the basement.warren: this is a horrible picture, but we can say this is a hill. you should’ve builtyour house up here, but you dig this out right here and you build your house here. this wasthe old hillside you can see, going through the house. you make that disappear. then theydump the dirt down below your house. however, here’s what happens. little rain cloud,water trickles. it’s called hydraulic head.

i’m a geologist, hydro geologist. i havea master’s degree. this is what really happens. rain comes down through the hill. it’s hydraulicpressure, like a pipe. this is higher. this is lower. it drives moisture up into yourbasement, and you’re done. some people build it next to a stream. water level rises up.that’s what happens. you get water in your basement. if you build at a bottom of thehill, you’re fighting nature, and you’re fighting humidity. you’re going to havemold in your house. don’t build on the side of the hill, and if you do, you’re goingto have to have an amazing, what they call, drainage system around your home to take careof that water and move it out away from your home. i was living in such a home, that’swhy i draw this, in my parents’ house. i

was living in the basement. i went from reallysick in my previous life to a houseâ which i love, that i had to leave. i wind up movinginto what was called amplified mold situation where it was heavily biotoxic. i went frombad to dysfunctional to laid out, can’t move, can’t function, can’t sleep. itwas because of this biotoxic illness. fast-forwarding a little bit, dr. pompa bought a book, justto give kudos to dr.—why am i thinking mold warrior? dr. shoemaker. we start reading thisbook and reading the horror stories about mold illness. i think there were true stories.not much hope in the book, but dan and i both were like, “look we need to go see thisguy, see what he’s all about. see how this all came about, and if mold illness is trulyas bad as he says it is.” it actually is.

however, it’s not a death sentence, butyou can’t live inside the moldy home. we’ve learned a lot from shoey, we like to callhim. a brilliant guy, great researcher, medical, but definitely alternative in his treatments.that’s where it started. from there, we got so hyper about mold and worried aboutit, dan moved me out of my moldy basement into his newer home with new carpet. that’show we discovered chemical sensitivity. david: you guys are the petri dish. you thinkabout this, you’re the petri dish. we have all this life-changing protocols that aretransforming people’s lives, as you guys say so often, from pain to purpose.warren: yeah, so quickly we’ll just finish that story. dan’s like, “warren, i’mkilling you. i feel so bad.” we found out

about chemicals more so than we thought. wedid all the research on how long does it take for carpet to off-gas. your walls, the insulation,which is full of formaldehyde, especially, when his home was built. dan’s like, “gotto rip out the carpets, save warren’s life,” so we did. we also installed air exchangesto bring fresh air in and pull toxic air out. we did everything we could. we also did, iswe put in dehumidifiers. especially in pennsylvania, it’s a very humid state. not as humid asatlanta. i probably can’t live there, because i just got really impacted by a moldy building,a moldy hotel. i’ll tell that story in a minute.david: i won’t say every house is like that. warren: not your house. i know you want itto feel bad, because you want me to move to

atlanta, but it’s not going to happen. toohumid for me there, sorry, i’m moving out west. you can see that i monitor, in my officebuilding, here’s the outside humidity, 57%. still a little bit too high for inside, butyou’ll see 39% here. it even says, “okay.” even the monitors for humidity know that ifthis gets high, they say, “danger, danger,” because this mold thing is becoming more anmore well known. sick building syndrome, things like that. it’s more common today. everyoneis scared of mold, and you should be. it’s massively toxic, and you can’t just testfor mold spores and mold count. it’s not an accurate test, just so you know. “i’mmold free, because i don’t haveâ mold spores,” that doesn’t’ mean anything. i’ll leaveit at that, it’s a whole other topic. i

like to keep our humidity in our office below50%, and you should, too. 45-50% is optimal, definitely below 50%. above 50%, you’regoing to start growing mold. 60%, you’re done. below 50% in your home. have a monitor.buy a dehumidifier from costco or lowe’s, home depot. get it done. if you have a biggerbasement, you’re going to have to go online and buy a major box unit that can move moreair. in this case, in this place, i just run a dehumidifier from costco.dr. pompa: can you show them, actually, what you did? here’s why we’re explaining this.again, it’s our number one in how to fix a cell. you have to remove the source. moldyhomes are big problems, especially if you live in georgia, florida, north carolina,where i was. it’s humidity. just plain humidity

is causing mold problems, and so many peopleare sick because of it. where i live in park city, you don’t have a humidity problem.of course, you could have a leak, but it’s so darn dry that it dries before it leaks.it’s definitely less of an issue. however, in some of the southern states, it’s a bigissue. here’s what we do. you want to bring in fresh air—and by the way, we have todo this with many people who move into new homes, because the chemical levels are sohigh, of formaldehyde, from all the building materials, the insulation, the walls, thecarpets. we exchange it with outside air, which is good for preventing mold, and it’seven better for just getting rid of, obviously, toxins in the air. warren, show them. canyou take your computer? oh, you don’t have

a little portable laptop, darn.warren: no, i won’t be able to. man, it’s – nope.dr. pompa: i was going to say, if you have your laptop, you can walk over there withit. i was hoping he would show just one of these units. there is a dehumidifier connectedto his whole hvac system in his office. it brings the air in, and it takes the moistureout. i had that in my home when i lived in pittsburgh as well. then he has another unitthat pulls outside air in, runs it through the dehumidifier, but it’s bringing outsideair in to his system. the problem is, today we’re building houses that are sealed. wethink that’s a good thing, and on the surface, yeah, it saves energy. on the surface, itis a good thing. however, the problem is that

we’re locking humidity in. that’s theproblem. we seal homes to lock moisture out, but when we wrap homes in plastic, it reallyis creating a whole new moisture problem. by the way, you’d say gosh, you go to europeand you’d say, “there must be so much mold. these buildings are hundreds and hundredsof years old.” they didn’t build like we build. they build with a different magnesiumtype of product, believe it or not. it’s like a magnesium oxide, and it breathes. allof the old, old buildings breathe. a building that breathes is a building that doesn’tget moldy. there’s an air exchange. it’s a healthier building. today, we’re buildingthese tight, sealed buildings that are trapping in chemicals, so we’re being poisoned andwe’re developing moisture and mold problems.

modern day building is causing this epidemic.david: that tyvek wrap that they’re putting around houses before they put the brick on,think about this. the brick is porous, and what’s it going to do? it’s going to havemoisture. they’re putting nails through the tyvek, so all of a sudden, water is goingto come through, because it’s not a perfect seal. it’s going to get in there, and thenit’s going to hold it into the house. dr. pompa: the nails, it really doesn’treally cause it, because the tyvek’s meant to do that. the nails in it are by designand the way they overlap, and etc. david, it’s sealing in a certain amount of humidity.it’s sealing in a certain amount of moisture, just because the building’s meant to breatheand not breathing.

david: here’s an important point there,guys. if you’re building a new home and you’re watching this, you’re about tobuild a new home, what happens is, just like i was in georgia looking at some new condosthat are being built, it just rained and the particle board was—the size of the home,the exposed 2x4s, it just rained, and they’re up there slapping on a plastic bag, tyvekaround them. that seals that moisture into that home. then they build the brick aroundit, do all the fancy stuff, and they think, “oh, it looks perfect and beautiful,”but they locked this moisture in. now, you have a humid area like atlanta, they’reopening their windows, they don’t have dehumidifiers in the homes, and you get over 55%. there’smold already growing there. spores are already

introduced, because there was good and badmold spores being deposited on wood. it gets up above that mark. mold starts to grow. itlets off a biotoxin. maybe it’s not amplified yet, but over the years, it just builds andbuilds and grows and feeds and grows, and biotoxic warfare happens between good andbad molds. that’s the toxins they use to fight each other. who’s going to win out,because there’s different molds. the molds that win in homes, because of the temperature,because of the light, it’s not the good healthy molds that get sunshine outside. it’sthese black molds, like stachybotrys, and there’s some other ones. dr. pompa knowsthem better, because he works with patients in tests more than i do. even though i usedto do it for a living, i can’t remember,

because i’m not doing it every day. thesemolds win over, and you create this biotoxic warfare going on in your home. those biotoxins,not just the mold spores themselves, but the biotoxins they produce in this war, causeyou to become very sick and ill, and it destroys lives. it’s one of the main r’s of thesources of disease and toxicity that you could possibly ever face. it’s one of dr. pompa’stop three. dr. pompa: many people probably know who erinbrockovich is, the movie, right? it’s where she went and she basically saved all thesepeople who are developing cancer from a plant. i don’t recall what industry it was, butthey were poisoning the water. the people were getting cancer. she went in. she wasthe hero. before erin brockovich ended up

in a brand new home, just like warren explained.same situation. her home was moldy, and she got very, very sick. she ended up in her ownmold. there was a 48 hours presentation, one i showed some years ago at the seminar, thatwhole erin brockovich story. wow, what a story it was. lawsuit, you name it. brittany murphyis another famous person who, she died in a black mold house, literally. they knew it.her boyfriend, her fiancã©, i guess, he died 40 days later. something like that, i don’tprobably have the story exact. point is, both of them lived in the same home. both young,healthy people became unhealthy, and both died. that’s how serious this topic is.i know some of you out there want a resource, i think it’s moldremedy.com, as far as somegood ideas on how to deal with mold. i want

to talk about—i’ll make sure that is theright website here in a second, but, the getting rid of the mold is a critical thing, so criticalthat leviticus 14 in the bible told the israelites, his people that he looked after, “this iswhat you do if you see mold.” basically, he gave them very strict instructions. “ifit comes back, then you basically do this.” you take all of the contents from the house,take them to a place called unclean, and basically tear down the house, take all of that, andtake it to a place called unclean. today, it’s no different. i started this show inthe context of a story of a gentleman who has to leave his home and move, because itis just too much, you will never fix the amount. you become hypersensitive to the dog thatbit you. therefore, for him to even stay in

small amounts of that mold, and for yearsafter, if he comes in contact with that same mold, he will have a very violent reaction.we call it “quicker,” or “sicker quicker.” warren, tell your little story about, you’vebeen out of the mold now for years. you’re healthy. you got your life back, but you hada “sicker quicker” situation happen this weekend, obviously, a little bit of the hairof the dog that bit you. warren: this will throw us into why you havemoldy buildings, especially commercial buildings and hotels. they’re flat-roofed, and everyflat roof building leaks, every single one. you’re fighting mother nature. it’s flat.there’s a slight angle, but water pools on top. the rubber on top of the—just rubberthat’s sealed together with a glue at the

seams, and they leak at those seams. i wasin an old hotel, probably 30 years old, flat-roof building. got on the tenth floor. nicest room,one of the nicest rooms in the hotel. i walked in. i knew it was moldy. i had made the assumptionthat the whole place was moldy, and i forgot what i learned. it wasn’t until day twowhen i got sick that i realized i was in an amplified mold situation with a type of mold.different types of mold affect people differently in the types of biotoxin they produce. itliterally took me out for days. i’m still recovering neurologically. i can feel my lefteye drooping, just a little bit brain foggy still. not sleeping as well. not like i usedto be. at the event, because i was on a flat room building on a top floor, the mold wasliterally probably caked above me for multiple

weeks. over the years, even if they replacethe roof, they’re sealing in water damage. in a humid area like atlanta, the rooms arevery humid, and people commented on it. i stayed in the room, and i didn’t listento my gut instinct when i went in to switch rooms. dr. pompa, however, did switch rooms,he was on the tenth floor, for different reasons. it was chemically. he went down to the ninthor eight floor, i believe, and did okay. another doctor who’s very sensitive and mold sick,he actually had to leave the hotel. he left the hotel, came back the next day morning,and goes, “i am 90% better after i left.” i left the hotel, went to a new hotel. i saidi had to get out of there. i left a day early, went to another hotel that i wasn’t planningon staying at, had a window that opened, even

though i really don’t mind causing a littlehumidity during my stay. i slept like a baby and was 90% better after i got out of thesource. this anchors into dr. pompa’s story that these people were very—was it meghan?what was the name of the people who died? dr. pompa: brittany murphy.warren: brittany murphy. they have all the resources in the world. could get the bestdoctors, could spend the most money. they were famous. no matter what they did, theystill died. if you’re living in a moldy home, and when dr. pompa has a patient thatmoves, if he didn’t move, he would literally die, especially with the condition and thegenetics that were triggered in his life. it is a life-and-death situation. you can’tlive in black mold. it will kill you. it’ll

kill some people more quickly than others,depending on your genetic susceptibility to mold, because not everyone is as susceptible,of course, to biotoxins. i have the dreaded genotype. i’m very sensitive to mold, andobviously still have mold sensitivities. now, i’m going to have to methylate, do a lotof the things that dr. pompa does. i have to detox the biotoxins. i took bind last nightfor them. actually minded my wife when i was laying in bed, because i forgot the last twonights, and i’m actually get sicker day three getting out of exposure. i’m justnot feeling as well, so i made sure, last night, that i took my bind and hopefully,over the next seven days, what i’ll do is clear that exposure, by binding up the biotoxinsin my gut through the bile and removing them

from my system.dr. pompa: i was right on—it’s moldremedy.biz, i’m sorry, i was wrong. i wanted to say.b-i-z. i never heard of such a thing, you computer guys. what the heck is dot-biz?warren: dot-biz is common. david: it’s new, it’s newer.dr. pompa: alright, is it common, really? maybe it’s normal, but not common. i’venever seen it. anyways, yeah, so you can go there. i guess the reason i’m saying itthere is there a chance that somehow, you can actually remediate? the answer’s yes,you can remediate. take out all of things that are affected by the mold, especiallyleaks, the leak type of mold creates that you can take out all of that. you can’tjust do this. listen, i’ve made the mistake,

warren’s made the mistake. we get all excited,we start jumping into a mold situation, and we uncover more than we banked on, and we’resick for a month. at least back then, we were sick for a long time, because we actuallystirred up the mold. please don’t do that. if you have a leak, you have mold. any typeof long-term leak i should say, slowly. hire somebody to—what they do is they come inand they create negative air pressure. we talked about positive water pressure. negativeair pressure means that they put up a barrier, and they just basically put a small littlefan somewhere pulling the air out of that space they’ve created where they’re working,so that that air does not share with the inside home air, but it’s poured outside. it createsa negative pressure, or as far as looking

in from the room, it would be a positive pressuregoing in, negative pressure going out of that controlled space. yeah, that’s what youhave to do to just do a remediation. then this stuff, here’s the other mistake. youdon’t go and throw clorox on it, because clorox is loaded with water, which feeds theroots of the mold. it kills the mold on the surface, and underneath, it actually makesthe problem worse. hydrogen peroxide is a safer solution, but still really not a solution.this company does have some really good dust things. be careful. these mold people comein, they spray it with very toxic chemicals, and then that creates—typically, peoplewho are mold sensitive, are sick from mold, they also, like warren, have chemical sensitivityon the back side of it. then they end up with

a new story, a new problem. please, caution.use a safe agent. i know that that website talks about that, so there’s some educationreading for you. let’s talk about real fast, i know we don’t have time, guys, but maybejust in a nutshell. i know this is a conversation that—we have five minutes, that we haveto redo, because i do want to talk more about what we do to get it out of the body. i willtell that story, because there really is a whole story around it, next time, of how wereally discovered a lot of that, what we’re doing, and share some of that. there is atechnique to pull the mold out of the body. warren just made quick mention of, “hey,i’m a genetic type that doesn’t get rid of biotoxins very easy. you can have fourpeople living in the same home. one gets fibromyalgia,

chronic fatigue, the other just gets somebreathing and wheezing and sinus trouble. genetics play a role, just like always. somepeople don’t get rid of the toxin as easy. those people will absolutely need, typically,a treatment, even beyond getting out of the home. we’ll talk about that next week, butit’s pulling the toxin away from the bowel complex, the liver/gallbladder, and it works.it really does work. of course, the cellular healing is needed to go along with that, butwe have to remove the person from the source and the source from the person. i’ll leaveit at that. warren: we opened up pandora’s box on mold.again, we’re straight shooters. we’re telling you the truth, and things that we’velearned over the years. dan and i have had

multiple water leaks in our homes, from underthe sink to water coming in underneath the flashing underneath the side of his house,major water damage. we’ve been through it all. it’s almost hilarious how much badthings happen to—people call it bad luck. we call it training for war, that god allowedthese things to happen to us, to train us and equip us to educate you. we’ve had almostevery bad thing that could happen to you in a home, it’s happened to me once, dan fivetimes. that’s usually how it works, five to ten times worse in dr. pompa’s life.he laughs, because it’s fricking true. i can’t help but say that. it’s a sad reality,but it’s made him a better man and a better teacher and educator, because we both comeat it from a place of experience, not because

we’ve read it in a book, because you learnit. if you would hire someone, you could go hire somebody to make your home safe, i coulddo it better. because i have an engineering/geology/chemistry master being a background, so i understandthe chemistry behind it. did measurement with $5,000, $10,000 meters in buildings lookingfor these sorts of things. didn’t understand it was real, thought everyone that was complainingabout it was nuts. i became that nut guy, so i really stuck my foot in my mouth. inthat process, we learned a lot about creating safe homes. no, you can’t hire me. i’mnot for hire when it comes to building. i’m not selling my services. i’m just sayingwhen you live something, they’re usually the best teachers, and the ones that can getit done. if you are that person and you have

that, get out there, blog, make comments onthis youtube video about how you can help people. send them to websites.dr. pompa: let me give them some websites. survivingmold.com, chronicneurotoxins.com.there’s a simple test you can do. we’ll talk more about testing and more of a solutionnext week. a simple visual contrast test that you can do on chronicneurotoxins.com for $15.it’s a good place to start, but we’ll dig a little deeper next week. warren, maybewe have a guest on one of our good friends phil kaplan, to tell a little bit about hisstory. it would really teach a lot of lessons, i think in this lesson. you all would be blessedto meet phil. warren: i’ll set that up for next week,for sure, for the show. i’m going to do

that. actually, i just texted him this morning.i was thinking about him, over and over again, about some of the mistakes that you couldpossibly make. phil’s made them all, and i have no idea why he keeps doing this.dr. pompa: what a story, what a story. warren: yeah, it’s an amazing story, andi really look forward to getting him on. that’s a brilliant idea. i’ll make that happen.david, any final comments? dr. pompa, david, before we wrap up? we have one minute left.david: i know we have to wrap up. as you’re talking about the subject, i have so manyquestions, and sometimes i sit here, because i’m just person just watching it saying,“oh, i have this question. i have that question. this happened in my home.” if we’re goingto —

dr. pompa: please write them down.warren: go right below here on cellular healing tv —david: i started typing them into my phone, as you were talking, so i would remember fornext week. warren: below, on this page, if you’re watchingthis on cellularhealing.tv, there is a “questions” button. that will go to an email, which willalert me of any questions you may have, and i can bring them up on any show. in particular,if you have them on biotoxic illness, mold illness, sick building syndrome, these differenttopics will come up online. learn about them, and if you don’t have your questions answered,we can definitely address them. there’s not a question you can give us on mold illness,mold, that we can’t answer. we’ve been

there, done that, and we’re here to giveyou the real truth and real answers on cellular healing tv.david: thanks, everyone. dr. pompa, i’ll see you in a few minutes.dr. pompa: yeah, exactly. i can’t wait for next week’s call.warren: by the way, they’re broadcasting live from las vegas at a conference. they’relearning more about cellular healing. it’s incredible, guys. thanks so much for takingtime today, live from las vegas. dr. pompa: yeah, i like that. we should’vestarted the show like that. warren: live from las vegas.david: yeah. have a great weekend. warren: alright, love you all. byedavid: love you. see you.